FB Group Questions Answered
There is just way too much misinformation out there. It is best to understand what’s what.
There are three distinct issues here that I will explain:
- 1) What the vaccine is,
- 2) Timing of the vaccine and
- 3) Vaccine vs the real Covid.
1) What is the vaccine:
With all of the misinformation out there, I am not surprised that you are confused. The vaccine is a “scratch” equivalent of the irritant. In the case of the virus, they take a part of the virus and transfer it to the person being vaccinated. It is important to know that the virus is either an RNA only or a DNA only virus. An RNA is a single strand of the DNA. A virus is just a bunch of RNA or DNA and nothing else–it has some apparatus to connect to a human cell receptor but otherwise it is just a bunch of RNA or DNA. So when we are talking about taking a little scratch of the irritant, think of it as a little piece of the RNA or DNA. This is true for all vaccines.
There are 2 basic types of vaccines–there are more but I just want to discuss these two as they are the most used. a) conventional vaccine–think standard flu vaccine or b) the modern mRNA vaccine.
The conventional vaccine uses live adenoviruses and places in them a little snippet of the virus vaccinated against. For example, the Johnson and Johnson vaccine, which was a single shot, was this kind of vaccine. The adenovirus is a deactivated virus, which has to be “grown” in eggs–this is why they ask if the person has an egg allergy for these conventional vaccines. And inside the adenovirus is a little snippet of DNA or RNA of the target virus we want to vaccinate against. The adenovirus vaccine is given in larger doses because the adenovirus is quickly recognized by our body as an invader and the immune system launches an attack. Therefore, the snippet of the new virus DNA or RNA may not make it to the target–this is why there was 4-5 times as much fluid injected with the conventional form than with the mRNA vaccine.
2) The mRNA vaccine has no adenovirus! Instead, a very tiny droplet of oil (PEG) is used. Lipids can cross the cellular membrane easily without needing to find a receptor and since lipids are “familiar” to the immune system, they don’t attack it. This is why the mRNA vaccine was just such a tiny dose. And with the lipid carrier, the vaccine’s success of reaching a target cell to release the mRNA (snippet of the virus) into a human cell was much easier. This PEG delivery system is a genius delivery system. The problem is that this virus is highly irritating, no matter what snippet part was taken.
They used the spike protein because in order for the virus to connect to a cell, it did so with its spike protein, so recognizing the spike protein by the immune system was the best way to get rid of the virus.
So now you understand the vaccine.
2) Timing of the vaccine:
Often times one can catch a virus and not know that one is sick for several days. This is typical for all viruses–3-5 days usually when the virus is already in the body but there are no symptoms yet, and you don’t know.
If you get a vaccine at this time: you will get sick with the virus often more seriously than if you didn’t get the vaccine. This can be avoided but most people don’t know about it. For example, before I got my shingles vaccine, I took an IgG and IgM test that is specific to the shingles virus. The test told me 1) if I ever had the virus–I did so vaccination was important, and 2) if I was sick at that time–I was not so getting the vaccine then was a great timing. Most people don’t know that they can test for the virus in the body. If they did and got the test, most problems could be avoided.
3) When you get the vaccine, your 2 immune systems will react: innate (always on duty and if it got rid of the virus you don’t even know you had it–you had no symptoms) and adaptive (this is the killer and memory T cells that come on after the innate immune system failed, the infection started and are the ones that give all of the symptoms).
When you get a vaccine, your symptoms will be commensurate to the symptoms you would get had you caught the real virus, only there is no real virus in you. The symptoms after the vaccine are NOT side effects! They are the DESIRED effects!
If you were to get really sick from catching the real Covid, you will feel really sick from the vaccine.
Children have very strong innate immune systems and often go through bugs without them even knowing. But they don’t yet have a strong adaptive immune system, because that builds up over a lifetime of previous bugs the system had to fight and the memory associated with them. If kids come down with the bug, they tend to get sicker later.
In terms of the vaccination and the test: the PCR test and whether it will test positive for a vaccine: no. The mRNA in the Covid vaccine disintegrates within 2-3 hours.
The PCR test looks for the mRNA signature itself in the sample but that won’t be in the nose or throat from the vaccine–remember that the vaccine is locally administered into the arm and the vaccine won’t move from there. The goal is not to cover every single cells of the body with the vaccine, but only a small area where the immune cells will attack and learn from, creating a memory.
So if someone tests positive for Covid 2-3 days after–or even same day–of the vaccine: they actually had Covid for real and got vaccinated when they were already ill.
Comments are welcome, as always, and are moderated for appropriateness,
Angela